Maybe suing the courts, the class providers, Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, Cocaine Anonymous Groups, (including Corporate AA/NA/CA) might get their attention finally, now that victims are holding them accountable for not protecting people at their meetings. They have full knowledge how dangerous many of them are. Corporate AA/NA is also aware of the many crimes against men,women and children that have already taken place. Many people that are mandated to Anger Management classes are also mandated to AA or NA because many violent crimes are committed while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Glad to see Luna Oraivej is fighting back with a lawsuit against Court Services Institute! A felony warrant is out for Faribah Maradiaga 19, who stabbed her who failed to show up to court. Check out the link to read the actual lawsuit below and link to photos of incident. There are 3 different stories about this – dont miss them!
by LINDA BYRON / KING 5 News
Updated Monday, Dec 5 at 11:08 PM
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ISSAQUAH, Wash. — Luna Oraivej, 37, admits she got angry and broke a DVD player during an argument at home.
“I was wrong, I did something wrong,” Oraivej said. “I was being honest with police. I said ‘Yes, I stepped on it,’ but nobody touched each other, there was no physical violence.”
Because it was a domestic violence dispute, Issaquah Police arrested Oraivej for malicious mischief.
“When he [the officer] told me I had to go to jail for that, it really took me by surprise,” Oraivej said.
Oraivej was booked into the city jail and charged with a criminal misdemeanor. Her attorney and the prosecutor worked out a deal and when she got to court, the judge informed Oraivej that there was a way to make the criminal charge go away — pay a fine and attend anger management classes.
Oraivej said on her way out of court, she picked up paperwork from a judicial clerk directing her to Court Services Institute. She said she thought it was a court sponsored program and she wasn’t given any other options.
“No, I was given this one place, this one number, call them up and they’ll tell you when to show up,” Oraivej said.
http://www.king5.com/news/investigators/Investigators-Anger-Management-135058318.html
Claim: Lack of security by private anger management class provider allowed for attack
By LEVI PULKKINEN, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
Published 08:22 p.m., Sunday, December 11, 2011
An Issaquah woman stabbed during a court-ordered anger management class has filed a lawsuit claiming the class provider failed to protect her from others there.
Stabbed during an October 2010 class operated by the Court Services Institute, Luna Oraivej, 37, claims the for-profit company didn’t do enough to ensure her safety as she gathered with others accused of low-level crimes to learn to manage their anger.
Writing in the lawsuit filed earlier this month in King County Superior Court, Oraivej’s attorneys claimed the Institute misled Oraivej into believing the anger management classes were taught by trained mental health professionals, and that she’d be safe there.
“With the extensive court and law enforcement expertise CSI advertises, CSI agents and employees are well aware that courts order individuals to attend anger management classes because they have a history of not being able to control their anger – anger that, in most instances, led to violence against others,” the attorneys said in the civil suit.
“Nevertheless, CSI has no security policies or procedures to protect its business patrons from one another. CSI takes no precautions to avoid allowing deadly weapons into its anger management classes.”
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Issaquah-woman-stabbed-in-anger-management-
Inside Edition snip
Luna Oraivej was in an anger management class when, incredibly, she says she was stabbbed by an out-of-control classmate.
“I couldn’t stop saying, I can’t believe she just stabbed me,” said Oraivej.
The attack happened at a Bellevue, Washington, building. Oraivej said she was stabbed three times. Afterwards she dialed 911 as blood was streaming down her arm.
Even while calling 911, her alleged attacker was so out of control she continued screaming in the lobby.
With guns drawn, police took the alleged stabber, Faribah Maradiaga into custody. She had been sent to anger management class because police say she had assaulted a teacher. Oraijev was ordered to attend the class for breaking a DVD player during an argument with her husband.
http://www.insideedition.com/news/7339/woman-stabbed-in-anger-management-class.aspx
Here is an article where a woman who was attending AA meetings met a guy there who ended up killing her. Her parents are suing Alcoholics Anonymous.
http://nadaytona.org/2012/09/28/alcoholics-anonymous-world-services-sued-by-parents-of-murder-victim-karla-brada/
Great post on http://www.orange-papers.org about lawsuits with AA.
They need to be held accountable!
Massive,
I’m aware that AA was sued around 2007 by the family & survivor’s of a suicide victim. Said victim was schizophrenic & on medicine prescribed by a physician. If I recall correctly victim was a male, lonely, vulnerable & socially inept due to his mental illness. He began attending AA meetings in N.Y. city & finally belonged to something & had social interaction which his life lacked due to his mental illness. AA member’s were his only “friends” & social contacts. Said AA members coerced this vulnerable & ill man to stop taking his medicine & he complied with their non qualified medical advise, due to not taking the medicine, he killed himself. Through out his life he had self medicated with alcohol & street drugs, but that had stopped once he was treated by a qualified physician & on medicine. His survivors, were of course outraged @ what had occurred to him @ AA meetings, they sued, AA quietly & quickly settled for 2.7 million. I really regret I did not print the article pertaining to this lawsuit when it was available on the internet the winter of 2009/2010. It is no longer on the web, I would think due to the settlement, the agreement included a verbal & written gag on the incident. I do recall that @ first AA members in the group defended AA, however in a lawsuit, anything that gets thrown to the wall & sticks becomes part of the suit. Said AA member’s were included in the lawsuit & were going to be personally sued for their liability. Basically, if you have own or have any wealth you are fair game in a suit. Said AA member’s quickly changed their stories when they were being sued right along with AA & threw AA under the bus. I believe the recourse to take regarding the sexual abuse & exploitation that occurs in AA & that AA will not be accountable for or provide solutions or protection & is therefore grossly negligent is lawsuits. I can only surmise the first step is to find class action attorneys who want the cases, AA has deep pockets & are therefore worth class action attorneys time & attention. A class action attorney will know how to gather the victims, all said attorneys need is one victim to get the ball rolling. I am sure there are numerous & multiple AA members who have contacted the big dogs @ AA & asked for help regarding the sexual abuse & that AA pleaded not responsible. It would start with documentation of those complaints, which of course would be in writing & retained by the people who reached out to AA for help with the abuse & were ignored, the problem neglected. Once an organization is advised of misconduct, inappropriate, criminal, abusive, etc., etc., etc., behavior & actions within their organization & they do not take the appropriate measures to protect it’s members, they are liable. I do know AA tries to cover it’s ass, by writing that sexual abuse is not allowed, that member’s are not to tell other members to not take their medicine, but it’s not enough. Ultimately where AA is responsible is for participating in the court & parole & probation mandated & forced attendance of non voluntary members. AA should responsibly refuse that any member is convicted & forced to attend, however this has been AA’s bread & butter for years & without it by now the group would be as small as the prior Oxford Group is now. Will let you know any info pertaining to this.
patti
Deputy mandated to anger management classes-
Former LA deputy pleads no contest to threat
The Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, Apr. 24, 2012 – 5:31 pm
LOS ANGELES — A former Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy has been sentenced to 90 days in jail for breaking into the home of his ex-girlfriend and threatening her boyfriend with a gun.Prosecutors say Reymundo Lainez of Pasadena was sentenced Tuesday after pleading no contest to making a criminal threat.He also was placed on five years formal probation and ordered to complete a year of anger management counseling. Prosecutors have said the 43-year-old Lainez was off duty last April when he broke into his former girlfriend’s Pasadena home, pointed a gun at her boyfriend, threatened the man and punched him. He has also been ordered to stay away from the victims while on probation.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/24/4439686/former-la-deputy-pleads-no-contest.html#storylink=cpy
A man who had been mandated to anger mangement goes on killing rampage.
Friend struggles to comprehend Mutrie’s rampageBy Elizabeth Dinan
edinan@seacoastonline.com
April 13, 2012 5:37 PM
GREENLAND — Cullen Mutrie was a large man, known to possess guns and anabolic steroids, who shot five police officers at his home Thursday night; wounding four and killing Police Chief Michael Maloney, police say.
But according to James Cook, a friend and former colleague, Mutrie was also kind, respectful, selfless and “a big, huge teddy bear.”
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Mutrie and an unidentified female were found dead in Mutrie’s 517 Post Road home early Friday morning, about eight hours after the mass shooting. The attorney general’s office on Friday said autopsies of Mutrie and the female will be conducted at the Medical Examiner’s Office on Saturday, April 14.
Police sources say Mutrie killed himself and the woman while his home was surrounded by dozens of police officers, after killing the Greenland police chief and wounding four other officers. The scenario is difficult for Cook to comprehend.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20120413-NEWS-120419849
The fact is that drug courts across the country are turning out ever greater numbers of felons, some of which have been charged with multiple offenses, numerous times! With overcrowded correctional facilities and the high costs involved with incarceration, the practice of releasing felons to AA/NA is becoming more and more popular with courts across the nation.
When you’ve done the research and you see how many times some of these people have been arrested and what they have been charged with, its mind-boggling to think they just get released to attend AA and NA over and over again ! More than a few of them have been arrested 10, 20 even 30 or more times.
To many of these career criminals, this is just a game !
First, one needs to understand the basic premise and operating structure of these self proclaimed, nonprofessional, non-supervised 12-step anonymous organizations. When it becomes clear how explicitly non-accountable and nonprofessional they are, one has to wonder what the courts are thinking by sending such large numbers of high risk individuals to them for probation and parole compliance !
These groups have no security at their meetings what so ever. They don’t provide any basic professional counseling, in fact they regularly discourage people from taking there medications as prescribed by a psychiatrist. Vulnerable newcomers are expected to comply with the advice of their ill-equipped, fellow addicted volunteer sponsors or risk being deemed noncompliant with the terms of their release etc… etc…
Ultimately, and unfortunately for those in need, these organizations also have a very low success rate !
Adding to the danger is the fact that these organizations are so concerned about their image that they will go to great lengths to cover up any incidents that happen to occur at their meetings or with citizens who are victimized by their members. There are countless situations where people have been abused and victimized by people at these meetings. Many have found that these atrocities just get covered up. Victims find no support or accountability even from the headquarters of these organizations. Check out the Newsweek and Washington Post articles about the rampant sexual abuse of teenage girls by men in the Midtown AA group to get a better idea about the reality of non-accountability within these groups !
The articles in this site are just the tip of the iceberg !
The practice of releasing felons, with the condition that they attend AA\NA, has become so prevalent that many jurisdictions exhibit a “self-serving bias” in favor of protecting the image of these organizations as well.
THIS IMAGE IS DEFENDED, NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH IS ABOUT HOW OUT OF CONTROL OR ROUGE SOME OF THESE GROUPS BECOME. THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY !
Unfortunately we have found that in some cases, victims may find little or no help even from police or the courts as politics play a big factor in all this !
Look at the facts for yourself and you will see just how insane it is to have no security or accountability at these mandated compliance sessions ! Violent offenders can just walk right into these, high risk meetings with guns, knives whatever. The response made by the lady in this article, who runs this meeting, is a prime example of the dangerous denial that we run into all the time with the organizers of these groups. In her classic, typical knee-jerk defense she stated that she basically, sees no reason to make any changes to current policy.
Apparently someone getting stabbed is not reason enough to admit that it might be prudent to consider reevaluating current policy ! A quick read through some of the articles on this site and you will come to understand that people have been killed in these meetings !
Let’s get real and show that we care about people’s safety and recovery enough to begin to take the necessary, basic steps toward providing it !
This is just so frightening! When will this stuff stop. I bet the person running that class is in a 12 step program.