When are the churches going to wise up to the dangers they are bringing into their churches by renting to AA and NA groups ? Many groups do not carry insurance,and the insurance carriers are typically unaware of these agreements the churches have with court mandated felons(including sexual predators) receiving the required meetings in their meeting halls.Many meetings take place while activities involving children are on church property. Some pastors have been made aware of sexual offenders at the AA/NA meetings when children are on church property, and they have refused to do anything.When are these people going to put the children first?
Woman Shot in the Head After Fight Spills Out of AA Meeting
A fight broke out between two AA members—and the wife of one of them took a bullet in the head.
By Will Godfrey
11/11/11 A woman was shot in the head as she sat in a car outside an AA meeting in Baldwin Park, LA County, Thursday night. A fistfight broke out between two men during the meeting at First Presbyterian Church of Baldwin Park at around 7:30pm. Cops said one of the combatants was the woman’s husband. The struggle spilled out into the parking lot, where one of the men pulled a handgun. His shot was aimed at the husband, but hit the woman in the car instead, as the vehicle veered across the street and into a fence on the other side. The suspect,described as a Latino male around 20 years old, fled the scene. The victim was taken to LA County USC Medical Center, where her condition was described as stable. Shocking as the incident may seem, it’s far from the firstoutbreak of AA-related violence.
http://www.thefix.com/content/woman-shot-head-after-fight-breaks-out-aa-9235
SICK OF OUR SECRETS….
aa is a recipe for disaster, many types. the program was put together by 3 ordinary guys, religious fanatics, all unqualified & shady ethics & morals. Vulnerable & fragile people are subjected to brain washed unqualified members who preach, lecture, are self righteous know it all’s & ultimately abusers. Abusers always blame the victim, AA is of course very unsuccessful, it is ridiculous, addiction to any addictive substance is not a “spiritual sickness”, thus when AA or NA are usually a failure for a vulnerable addict the sponser or group batters the failed members with u “don’t get it”, u r “dry drunk” or have “stinkin thinkin”. It is dangerous when unqualified people apply a unqualified rehab method. AA should only be a support group, not a fire & brimstone self righteous & unqualified rehab method. Both Bill & Frank Buchanan (Oxford Group) were snake salesmen & con men, they both had serious & untreated mental health issues. AA & NA are the epitome of the patients running the asylum. They are scary places, rarely successful & the members are full of themselves, righteous & pious hypocrites & know it alls & they are dangerous. According to AA alcoholism is a disease, then why, why are unqualified & non professional people & members treating ill people with an unqualified & failed rehab method. A support group is supposed to be about support, empathy, compassion, not about brain washing, control, being told what to think, do & say, control is abuse & abuse is never, ever right. AA has text book abuser mentality, methods, behaviors & actions, they blame the victim. AA actually asks females & minors who have been sexually abused & manipulated within the rooms “what was your responsibility for this abuse?!!”. A rape victim may have been “asking for ” rape by her clothing. A man beats a woman & then explains you made me beat you, you get me so angry. This is AA, they are irresponsible & dangerous, ignorant & dangerous. Some body has to do something, AA should be investigated by the government, FBI, some body has to do something.
This is why there needs to be security at these meetings.The government has blood on their hands for mandating the most disturbed,criminally insane people to AA/NA meetings without any warning to the people running the meetings.The government,which includes Drug Courts and Department of Corrections across the nation need to take responsibility for the horrific consequences that have happened,because of mandating violent felons and sexual predators to meetings with no concern for the vulnerable.This includes minor children exposed to pedophiles and desperate drug addicts at the meetings.