Here is yet another example of AA/NA groups being a public nuisance! This is a growing nationwide problem. The churches need to be held accountable as well as they are renting to groups without the proper zoning permits and are puttting their congregation in danger.
This is the Fort Sherman Chapel Group,District Area 92AA located in Washington State causing numerous problems for the neighborhood.
A Fortgrounds attorney wants Alcoholics Anonymous to keep it down.
Out of frustration with a local AA group’s raucous gatherings, Edward W. Kok has filed legal action against the Washington State District Area 92 AA, Fort Sherman Chapel Group and unnamed AA members.
Kok (pronounced like Coke), who lives on Forest Drive, says his quality of life has been thwarted by the hubbub of AA meetings across the street at Fort Sherman Chapel.
“The actions of the defendants are offensive to the senses, are an obstruction to the free use of plaintiff’s property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life and property,” Kok wrote in a legal complaint filed in district court on Sept. 8.
Kok is representing himself.
The 53-year-old alleges that members of the group – who meet at the chapel every day at 8 a.m. and also Mondays at 5 p.m. – converse loudly before and after meetings.
“…The sound is as though the AA members are meeting in the plaintiff’s front yard,” the legal complaint reads.
Sometimes loud motors and conversation starts long before 7 a.m. and goes as late as 9 p.m., the document reads. Individuals’ cars have also blocked spaces for residents in the area.
It’s a public nuisance, according to Kok.
He also alleges that the group’s meetings are unlawful, as the gatherings take place without a special use permit required for religious organization or community meetings.
That means the Museum of North Idaho is at fault, as well, Kok reports, as the nonprofit corporation owns and operates the Fort Sherman Chapel.
“The defendant museum and perhaps AA as well knew or should have known” about the group’s use of the structure for years, the legal complaint states.
Efforts to find an individual claiming authority for the AA group have been futile, Kok wrote in his complaint.
As he hasn’t been able to track down members, his legal action labels those defendants as John and Jane Does 1-100.
Kok is requesting a judge to enjoin the museum from allowing AA further use of the chapel.
He is also asking for $7,500 in attorney’s fees, though he wouldn’t say if he plans to bring another attorney on board.
“I’m committed to seeing this through to some satisfactory solution,” Kok said on Wednesday.
Individual members of the chapel AA group either couldn’t be reached, or preferred to retain anonymity and not be quoted.
http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_6b35040b-2186-5cc8-8cbe-9b6bbc3d83ad.html
Why are churches allowing pagan cults to rent space from them? I am glad my church does not do this.
Interesting that this historic AA meeting Club is closing after so many years!
I find it very interesting that they point out the fact that the way people are socializing is changing. It makes perfect sense that the acceptance of http://www.smartrecovery.org online meetings become more and more popular and in demand.
A sobriety club that dates back 60 years and hosts about 20 Alcoholics Anonymous meetings each week closed its doors Friday because of “poor economic performance.”
The Akron Arid Club, at 787 Brown St., which sold no alcoholic beverages as a “dry” club, suspended all business operations, club officials announced in a letter taped to the front door.
The club had been open seven days a week.
Financial secretary Shane Wagoner said the club hopes to reorganize and reopen somewhere else. He said six people were laid off with the closing.
Changing ways of socializing might have contributed to the decline of the club, which was a destination point every year during Founders Day weekend in June, when thousands of people converge on Akron to remember the founding of A.A. here in 1935.
Because of social media like Facebook, Wagoner said, and easy access to people via cell phones, there is simply not as great a need for groups of people to gather in large settings anymore, he said.
“Once upon a time, this is where you went to socially connect,” Wagoner said. “Today, we don’t have to go to those places to socially connect.”
http://www.ohio.com/news/local-news/arid-club-in-akron-shuts-down-1.237936
The Facts’ are the Akron Arid club closed because it became a Very Very unsafe place to be! I will have the updated FACTS ready to post in a few days! They made a settlement offer to try and keep the AA name holy and of course out of paper! FACT!
http://www.ohio.com/news/local/dry-people-s-club-needs-money-to-remain-open-1.427372?ot=akron.PhotoGalleryResponsive.ot&s=1.427371
Oh My …Akron AA you Disappoint me …what happened to ANONYMITY ! Billy would be so disappointed ! …I hear the PAridise club is giving away money as well as business & members
They need 20K and members have donated 180.00 so far? They do have a long way to go! Maybe another one AA Club will bite the dust.
Hi Marie! I look forward to more information thanks for the update! I bet more and more close because of these issues than we realize.